{"id":106145,"date":"2022-01-10T12:09:09","date_gmt":"2022-01-10T11:09:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/radioljubuski.ba\/?p=106145"},"modified":"2022-01-10T12:09:10","modified_gmt":"2022-01-10T11:09:10","slug":"prof-ivic-svi-necijepljeni-stariji-i-kronicni-bolesnici-kandidati-su-za-respirator-i-umiranje","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/radioljubuski.ba\/index.php\/2022\/01\/10\/prof-ivic-svi-necijepljeni-stariji-i-kronicni-bolesnici-kandidati-su-za-respirator-i-umiranje\/","title":{"rendered":"Prof. Ivi\u0107: Svi necijepljeni stariji i kroni\u010dni bolesnici kandidati su za respirator i umiranje"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Od danas vrijede stro\u017ee epidemiolo\u0161ke mjere,\u00a0 koliko se zapravo razlikuju od dosada\u0161njih, ho\u0107e li biti dovoljne za usporavanje \u0161irenja omikrona ili nam tek slijedi porast broja oboljelih u bolnicama,\u00a0 analizirano je u\u00a0 emisiji Hrvatskog radija &#8220;U mre\u017ei Prvog&#8221;. Predstojnik\u00a0 Klinke za infektologiju splitskog KBC-a Ivo Ivi\u0107 rekao je da na respiratoru trenuta\u010dno imaju 47 pacijenata, \u0161to je najve\u0107i broj dosad. Vidjeli smo i prije pojave omikrona da imamo kontinuirano velik broj pacijenata, \u0161to zna\u010di da se i uz pola cijepljenih stanovnika ne dr\u017eimo mjera, naglasio je dr. Ivi\u0107. Dodao je da se bolest slobodno \u0161iri te da je u bolnici 216 bolesnika pozitivnih na koronavirus.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/plugins\/video.php?height=314&#038;href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fprviprogramradija%2Fvideos%2F635813924286077%2F&#038;show_text=false&#038;width=560&#038;t=0\" width=\"560\" height=\"314\" style=\"border:none;overflow:hidden\" scrolling=\"no\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" allow=\"autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; picture-in-picture; web-share\" allowFullScreen=\"true\"><\/iframe>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8211; Maksimum za bolnicu je 250 COVID bolesnika i u tom slu\u010daju trebali bismo iseljavati druge djelatnosti, \u0161to bi naru\u0161ilo njihov rad, rekao je dr. Ivi\u0107.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ka\u017ee kako zabrinjava podatak da se malo ljudi cijepi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8211; Ljudi se pona\u0161aju samoubojstveno, kao da se ne\u0107e zaraziti, a svi \u0107emo se zaraziti, i vi\u0161e puta. Jedina razlika me\u0111u nama je tko je cijepljen i tko nije. Tko je cijepljen, mo\u017ee ra\u010dunati na blagu bolest, a tko nije, kandidat je za umiranje. Najvi\u0161e hospitaliziramo starije ljude, s vi\u0161e od 70 godina, a ima ih i od 50 godina, rekao je dr. Ivi\u0107.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8211; Bo\u017ei\u0107 &#8220;konzumiramo&#8221; i ra\u010dunam da \u0107emo tako nastaviti i idu\u0107ih tjedana. Dnevno imamo vi\u0161e od 20 prijmova, uspijevali smo pro\u0161li tjedan odr\u017eavati ravnote\u017eu, ali za dalje je te\u0161ko prognozirati, rekao je dr. Ivi\u0107.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Pro\u0161li tjedan bilo je 60 zara\u017eenih djelatnika bolnice, njihove klini\u010dke slike su blage, ali zbog epidemiolo\u0161kih razloga ne mogu raditi i to stvara velik problem u bolnici.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8211; \u0160irenje zaraze sprije\u010dit \u0107e mjere koje se budu provodile, a ne one koje se bude progla\u0161avale, naglasio je te poru\u010dio svima: Cijepite se. Svi ljudi koji se nisu cijepili neka ne ra\u010dunaju na to da je ova varijanta ne\u0161to bla\u017ea. Svi koji se nisu cijepili, svi stariji, svi kroni\u010dni bolesnici, do\u0107i \u0107e na red i kandidati su za respirator i umiranje, to ljudi sebi moraju staviti u glavu, rekao je prof. Ivi\u0107.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Epidemiolo\u0161ke mjere i \u0161irenje virusa<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8211; Uz kontrole po\u0161tovanja mjera, mislim da je najva\u017enija osobna kontrola pojedinca jer moramo biti odgovorni prema sebi, svojoj obitelji i \u0161iroj zajednici, kazala je epidemiologinja HZJZ-a<strong> Vesna Vi\u0161ekruna Vu\u010dina<\/strong>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dr.<strong> Ilija Brizi\u0107<\/strong>, virusni imunolog s rije\u010dkog Medicinskog fakulteta, rekao je da, bez obzira na mjere, virus ima veoma mnogo prostora za \u0161irenje.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Vi\u0161ekruna Vu\u010dina ka\u017ee da \u0161kole jesu mjesta velikog \u0161irenja virusa, ali da se tu moraju uzeti u obzir i drugi faktori koji utje\u010du na odr\u017eavanje nastave i kvalitetu \u017eivota. Smatra da tek nakon uvo\u0111enja mjera za kazali\u0161ta, kina i sli\u010dna okupljanja na red dolaze \u0161kole.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stanje u \u017eupanijama<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8211; Prema probirnim testovima koji se rade u cijeloj zemlji, o\u010dito je da je omikron zastupljen u svim \u017eupanijama &#8211; vi\u0161e od 50% u Zagrebu i dalmatinskim \u017eupanijama, dok se sjever Hrvatske jo\u0161 dobro dr\u017ei, rekla je Vi\u0161ekruna Vu\u010dina.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Teza o kolektivnom imunitetu<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8211; Ta je teza vrlo problemati\u010dna. \u010cak i ako omikron uzrokuje ne\u0161to slabiju klini\u010dku sliku, ne zna\u010di da ne\u0107e velik broj ljudi oboljeti. Ako imamo mnogo necijepljenih, zna\u010di da su oni u mnogo ve\u0107em riziku od zara\u017eavanja, \u010dak i od te\u017eih oblika. Mi prakti\u010dki ne znamo koliko je ljudi u Hrvatskoj koji nisu niti preboljeli, niti cijepljeni. Znamo koliko ih je koji su bili pozitivni i koliko ih je cijepljeno, a to je i dalje premalen broj, kazao je dr. Brizi\u0107.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8211; Vidimo da ni preboljenje ni cijepljenje ne stvaraju potpuni za\u0161titu od ponovne infekcije, osobito omikron-varijantom, ali kod tih osoba se smatra da imaju za\u0161titu od te\u017eih oblika bolesti. Pretpostavljam da se te osobe pona\u0161aju kao da se ne mogu ponovno zaraziti, slobodnije se pona\u0161aju i imamo pojavu simptoma u kolektivu, kazala je Vi\u0161ekruna Vu\u010dina.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8211; Pad imuniteta nastupa 4 do 6 mjeseci od preboljenja ili cijepljenja. &#8220;Booster&#8221; doza podi\u017ee tu za\u0161titu i zato se preporu\u010duje jer se smanjuje mogu\u0107nost aktivne infekcije. Ve\u0107ina cijepljenih je za\u0161ti\u0107ena od te\u017eih oblika bolesti, dodala je.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>&#8220;Booster&#8221; doza<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8211; Kada je dokazana zaraza, preporu\u010duje se cijepljenje 3 do 6 mjeseci od infekcije, minimalno do mjesec dana. Busteriranje se svakako preporu\u010duje osobama koje su imale COVID u obitelji, a same nisu bile zara\u017eene ili su bile asimptomatske, rekla je Vi\u0161ekruna Vu\u010dina.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dr. Brizi\u0107 za &#8220;booster&#8221; dozu ka\u017ee da to nije neuobi\u010dajeno u imunologiji jer \u0107e se njome poja\u010dati imunosni odgovor i smaniti mogu\u0107nost infekcije, \u010dak i od omikrona.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8211; O budu\u0107im &#8220;boosterima&#8221; mo\u017ee se raspravljati, ali po meni, mnogo je va\u017enije da se eventulano prona\u0111e neko novo cjepivo, ali na tome se jo\u0161 radi, rekao je dr. Brizi\u0107. Nagla\u0161ava kako je svakako dobro da svi prime &#8220;booster&#8221; jer se tako stvara kolektivni imunitet. Za 4. dozu ka\u017ee da \u0107emo morati pri\u010dekati podatke.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Nova cjepiva?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8211; To ne\u0107e do\u0107i za nekoliko mjeseci i to ne\u0107e utjecati na trenuta\u010dnu situaciju. Postoje istra\u017eivanja, ali za to je potrebno neko vrijeme, ka\u017ee dr. Brizi\u0107.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Velik pritisak na testiranja<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8211; Postoje odre\u0111eni planovi za pove\u0107anje kapaciteta. Za brzo anigensko testiranje kapaciteti su i dalje jako dobri pa u situacijama gdje treba donijeti medicinske odluke, to bi bio prioritet za testiranje, rekla je Vi\u0161ekruna Vu\u010dina.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Kako motivirati mlade da se cijepe?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8211; To je zanemareno pitanje. I kod mladih se mogu razviti te\u017ei simptomi, iako rje\u0111e. Ne vidim poantu u tome da netko ka\u017ee: ne\u0107u se cijepiti jer \u0107u preboljeti bez problema. To nije 100 posto tako. Osim toga, COVID mo\u017ee aktivirati niz drugih stanja. Rizik je u svakom slu\u010daju velik i postoji cjepivo koje bi to moglo prevenirati, rekao je dr. Brizi\u0107.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Uskoro preporuke za obvezna testiranja<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Vi\u0161ekruna Vu\u010dina ka\u017ee da bi u idu\u0107ih nekoliko dana trebale biti gotove revidirane preporuke za osobe za koje je testiranje obvezno.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Razvoj epidemiolo\u0161ke situacije<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8211; Nadam se da \u0107e sve biti bolje na prolje\u0107e, iako je trenuta\u010dno te\u0161ko procijeniti situaciju jer po\u010dela je nastava, ljudi se vra\u0107aju sa skijanja. O\u010dito je da \u0107e virus i dalje uzrokovati probleme bez obzira na kolektivni imunitet, rekao je dr. 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