{"id":128793,"date":"2022-04-04T12:23:24","date_gmt":"2022-04-04T11:23:24","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/radioljubuski.ba\/?p=128793"},"modified":"2022-04-04T12:23:26","modified_gmt":"2022-04-04T11:23:26","slug":"staresina-ne-bi-iznenadilo-da-nas-medvedev-s-pantovcaka-citira-veselina-sljivancanina","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/radioljubuski.ba\/index.php\/2022\/04\/04\/staresina-ne-bi-iznenadilo-da-nas-medvedev-s-pantovcaka-citira-veselina-sljivancanina\/","title":{"rendered":"Stare\u0161ina: Ne bi iznenadilo da na\u0161 Medvedev s Pantov\u010daka citira Veselina \u0160ljivan\u010danina"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Peglaju\u0107i (neuvjerljivo) svoje ruske veze i poveznice, aktualni hrvatski predsjednik Zoran Milanovi\u0107 upustio se i u ocjenu zvjerstava i okrutnosti ruske agresije na Ukrajinu. &#8220;U svakom ratu ima zlo\u010dina, ima i u ovom. Ali nema zvjerstava kao kod nas&#8221;, poru\u010dio je nimalo slu\u010dajni predsjednik Hrvatske. Kazao je to u trenutku kada, vezano uz rusku invaziju na Ukrajinu dominiraju dvije teme: zasad odlu\u010dni europski odgovor na rusku ucjenu isporukom plina (zahtjev za pla\u0107anje u rubljima) i humanitarna katastrofa koja prijeti braniteljima i stanovnicima Mariupolja, grada koji zajedno sa svojim stanovni\u0161tvom nestaje pod ruskim raketiranjem.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Te dvije teme i nisu sasvim nepovezane. Naime, u interesu Vladimira Putina i ruskog vojnog vrha jest do krajnosti zao\u0161triti &#8220;plinsku&#8221; ucjenu Europe i time skrenuti pozornost s evakuacije Mariupolja, prepustiti ruskoj vojsci zavr\u0161nicu pada i okupacije tog ukrajinskog grada, dok se Europljani domi\u0161ljaju kako dosko\u010diti plinskom \u0161oku.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Paralela s HOS-om<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mariupolj je za Vladimira Putina i njegova ministra obrane Sergeja \u0160ojgua umnogome ono \u0161to je Vukovar bio za Slobodana Milo\u0161evi\u0107a i Veljka Kadijevi\u0107a. Iznad svega, to je mjesto na kojem nastoje slomiti duh ukrajinske obrane. Gledano s geopoliti\u010dke strane, nadzorom nad Mariupoljem Rusi bi u\u010dinili korak dalje prema kopnenom povezivanju okupiranog Donbasa i anektiranog Krima i pribli\u017eili se ostvarenju svojih minimalisti\u010dkih ratnih ciljeva. Da bi osvajanje Mariupolja postiglo oba ta cilja, gotovo je nu\u017eno okupaciju grada zape\u010datiti zlo\u010dinom, pretvoriti ga u ru\u0161evinu i strati\u0161te, \u0161to \u0107e barem u ruskim o\u010dima biti jamstvo da vi\u0161e nema ukrajinskog povratka u Mariupolj.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Posebna su ruska meta, dakako, pripadnici Azov pukovnije, koja je sastavni dio ukrajinske vojske, a koju ruska propaganda ustrajno portretira kao neonaciste, od kojih oni, eto, &#8220;osloba\u0111aju&#8221; Ukrajinu i Ukrajince. I tu je ponovno prepoznatljiva paralela s Vukovarom: u ruskoj ratnoj propagandi Azov je u Mariupolju ono \u0161to je u srpskoj ratnoj propagandi HOS bio u Vukovaru 1991.: dakle, oni su najve\u0107i neonacisti\/najve\u0107i usta\u0161e crnoko\u0161ulja\u0161i, dok su ostali branitelji i stanovnici grada obi\u010dni neonacisti\/obi\u010dni usta\u0161e.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Gledaju\u0107i kako se posljednjih dana ste\u017ee obru\u010d oko Mariupolja, operacija ruske vojske sve vi\u0161e podsje\u0107a na operaciju JNA u posljednjim danima opsade Vukovara. Ruska vojska name\u0107e svoj potpuni nadzor nad evakuacijom stanovni\u0161tva, igra se pritom s europskim prijedlozima i dragovoljcima za predvo\u0111enje humanitarne evakuacije (Macron), ignorira i omalova\u017eava Me\u0111unarodni crveni kri\u017e (dok ovo pi\u0161em ba\u0161 su raketirali njihovo skladi\u0161te), skre\u0107e prema Rusiji odabrane humanitarne konvoje Ukrajinaca, \u010dija daljnja sudbina postaje neizvjesna. U Mariupolj su uputili pripadnike Wagnera, naizgled privatne vojske koju, me\u0111utim, poznavatelji smatraju tek produ\u017eenom rukom ruske vojne obavje\u0161tajne slu\u017ebe GRU, kao i paravojsku Putinova privatnog \u010ce\u010dena i generala ruske vojske Ramzana Kadirova, koji su druga produ\u017eena ruka ruske vojne obavje\u0161tajne slu\u017ebe.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">U vukovarskoj paraleli wagneri bi bili Arkanovi tigrovi, a Kadirovljevi bi vi\u0161e sli\u010dili \u0160e\u0161eljevim Belim orlovima. Prije pada Vukovara, arkanovci i \u0161e\u0161eljevci pridru\u017eeni su (kao produ\u017eene ruke KOS-a) jedinicama JNA kako bi nakon okupacije postali djelomi\u010dni izvr\u0161itelji, ali iznad svega i za\u0161titno lice pokolja i najzvjerskijih zlostavljanja nad braniteljima i civilima grada, koje je organizirao i njima u svakom segmentu upravljao sam vrh obavje\u0161tajne slu\u017ebe JNA (kolokvijalno KOS).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Sli\u010dnost dviju agresija<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ta sli\u010dnost modela srpske agresije na Hrvatsku i ruske agresije na Ukrajinu, operacije JNA nad Vukovarom i operacije ruske vojske nad Mariupoljem, uloge tzv. srpskih paravojski u sklopu operacija JNA i tzv. ruskih privatnih vojski u operacijama ruske vojske toliko je velika da izaziva zebnju kod svakog tko imalo znade \u0161to se doga\u0111alo u Vukovaru nakon pada i okupacije grada. Imaju\u0107i na umu vukovarski model, nije uop\u0107e upitno imaju li ruski ratni planeri nakanu nakon ulaska u Mariupolj (dati) poubijati zarobljene ukrajinske vojnike, osobito pripadnike Azov pukovnije koji im padnu u ruke, zdravi ili ranjeni, imaju li nakanu napraviti vi\u0161e Ov\u010dara oko Mariupolja, a dio branitelja i civila poslati na daljnje zlostavljanje u logore u Rusiji iz kojih \u0107e &#8220;nestajati&#8221;.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Pitanje je mo\u017ee li se u\u010diniti i\u0161ta da se to sprije\u010di? Na\u017ealost, upozoravanje na tu opasnost je gotovo jedino \u0161to se izvana mo\u017ee u\u010diniti. Ja mogu podsjetiti na sli\u010dnost Vukovara i Mariupolja. Hrvatski predsjednik mogao bi u\u010diniti mnogo vi\u0161e da se takvo upozorenje \u010duje. Kao hrvatski predsjednik, iz pijeteta prema mariupoljskim, ali i vukovarskim \u017ertvama.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">No na\u0161 Medvedev s Pantov\u010daka, u trenutku kada je Mariupolj pred padom, ka\u017ee da u Ukrajini &#8220;nema zvjerstava kao kod nas&#8221;!!! Vi\u0161e \u010dak i ne bi iznenadilo da nakon okupacije Mariupolja citira Veselina \u0160ljivan\u010danina, koji je dan nakon no\u0107ne egzekucije na Ov\u010dari za beogradsku televiziju izjavio: &#8220;U Vukovaru je mir. A to \u0161to \u010dujete neke pucnjeve no\u0107i, to su na\u0161e operacije\u2026 i sve ono \u0161to se doga\u0111a no\u0107u&#8221;. Kad je o ruskoj agresiji na Ukrajinu rije\u010d, na\u0161 Medvedev s Pantov\u010daka i profesor Veselin \u0160ljivan\u010danin su ionako na vrlo bliskoj frekvenciji.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/slobodnadalmacija.hr\/autor\/visnja-staresina-3227\">Pi\u0161e Vi\u0161nja Stare\u0161ina<\/a>\/slobodnadalmacija.hr<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Peglaju\u0107i (neuvjerljivo) svoje ruske veze i poveznice, aktualni hrvatski predsjednik Zoran Milanovi\u0107 upustio se i u ocjenu zvjerstava i okrutnosti ruske agresije na Ukrajinu. &#8220;U svakom ratu ima zlo\u010dina, ima i u ovom. Ali nema zvjerstava kao kod nas&#8221;, poru\u010dio je nimalo slu\u010dajni predsjednik Hrvatske. 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