{"id":72819,"date":"2021-10-08T10:32:01","date_gmt":"2021-10-08T09:32:01","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/radioljubuski.ba\/?p=72819"},"modified":"2021-10-08T10:32:02","modified_gmt":"2021-10-08T09:32:02","slug":"ljubic-konstitutivnost-naroda-cuva-bih","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/radioljubuski.ba\/index.php\/2021\/10\/08\/ljubic-konstitutivnost-naroda-cuva-bih\/","title":{"rendered":"Ljubi\u0107: Konstitutivnost naroda \u010duva BiH"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Gost Dnevnika D bio je Bo\u017eo Ljubi\u0107, predsjednik Glavnog vije\u0107a HNS BiH.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ka\u017ee da se BiH istinski nalazi mo\u017eda u najdubljoj institucionalnoj i politi\u010dkoj krizi od Dejtona.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;Dolaze do izra\u017eaja sve one proturje\u010dnosti koje nisu rje\u0161avane za ovih 25 godina. I trenutno, ako polazimo od one da kriza mo\u017ee biti i \u0161ansa, imamo i priliku da do\u0111emo &nbsp;do rje\u0161enja.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Smatra da nismo daleko od rje\u0161enja, ali nismo ni mnogo dalje od katastrofe.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;Ukoliko ne iskoristimo ovu priliku koja nam se pru\u017ea, a ona se ti\u010de ovih reformi, u prvom redu reforme Izbornog zakonodavstva i prilike koju nam jo\u0161 jedanput pru\u017eaju predstavnici me\u0111unarodne zajednice. Iluzorno je o\u010dekivati da \u0107e nam bilo ko iz vana donijeti rje\u0161enje, pa i Palmer.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Isti\u010de da je me\u0111unarodna zajednica po\u010dinila mnoge gre\u0161ke.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;Danas smo mi u prilici, zajedno sa predstavnicima me\u0111unarodne zajednice, da ispravljamo te gre\u0161ke. Temeljem Dejtona me\u0111unarodna zajednica je dio unutarnjeg sistema BiH i preko Aneksa 1 a i b, &nbsp;u sigurnosno-vojnom smislu je u kranjoj liniji autoritet predan u ruke NATO-u, uz suglasnost BiH i susjednih dr\u017eava. I preko Aneksa 10 u civilnom dijelu sporazuma. Prema tome, ovi subjekti ne samo da imaju pravo, oni imaju i odgovornost da zajedno sa doma\u0107im \u010dimbenicima tra\u017ee rje\u0161enja koja \u0107e BiH u\u010diniti samoodr\u017eivom i funkcionalnu u budu\u0107nosti i bez uplitanja me\u0111unarodne zajednice.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ljubi\u0107 navodi da, kada su u pitanju temeljna na\u010dela Ustava, na\u010delo konstitutivnosti i jednakopravnosti naroda, kad je u pitanju na\u010delo legitimnog politi\u010dkog predstavljanja, ne mo\u017ee i ne treba biti kompromisa.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;To je ne\u0161to \u0161to je zadano Ustavom i to je narodno pravo, pravo svakog od tri konstitutivna naroda. Kada je u pitanju tra\u017eenje najboljih modela da se ta temeljna na\u010dela Ustava realiziraju, onda naravno mo\u017eemo razgovarati o razli\u010ditim modalitetima.Prema tome, Hrvati su dovedeni u situaciju da su na pragu gubitka konstitutivnosti. I u toj situaciji praviti kompromise sa temeljnim na\u010delima same postavke Ustava jednostavno nema smisla.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Beskorisno je govoriti o Fileovom modelu<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">O Fileovom modelu ka\u017ee da taj model nikada nije doveden do kraja.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;Ja sam tada bio jedan od pregovara\u010da u ime hrvatske strane. O tome govoriti sada potpuno je beskorisno. Osnov za po\u010detak pregovora je definirao Ustav BiH koji ka\u017ee da BiH tvore tri konstitutivna naroda, a ne entiteti. S druge strane, Ustavni sud po mojoj apelaciji jasno je potvrdio da se pravo na demokratsko odlu\u010divanje ostvaruje legitimnim politi\u010dkim predstavljanjem koje mora biti utemeljeno na demokratskom izboru one zajednice dr\u017eavljana koju predstavlja i \u010dije interese zastupa. Prema tome, ako polazimo od te maksime, a to je aksiom same mogu\u0107e BiH, onda moramo tra\u017eiti rje\u0161enja u tom gabaritu. Dakle legitimnog politi\u010dkog predstavljanja u institucijama koje su Ustavom za to predvi\u0111ene, Predsjedni\u0161tvo i Dom naroda. Opet ka\u017eem, o modelima mo\u017eemo razgovarati. HNS je dao nekoliko modela u opticaj, oni su na stolu i o njima trebamo razgovarati. Zamjerke se \u010desto kre\u0107u u zamjeni teza. Do sada niko osim HNS-a nije dao konkretan prijedlog. SDA je dao neka na\u010dela i po njima paradoksalno je da oni tra\u017ee ukidanje Doma naroda, \u0161to ne tra\u017ei nijedna odluka Ustavnog suda. Ustavotvorci Dejtona su jasno postavili \u0161ta su konstituenti BiH. To su konstitutivni narodi, jer da su postavili entiete kao konstituente onda bi danas entiteti imali pravo da tra\u017ee otcjepljenje od BiH. \u0160to se ti\u010de toga, rekao bih da je Alija Izetbegovi\u0107 bio puno mudriji od dana\u0161njih bo\u0161nja\u010dkih politi\u010dara. Pa je temeljem apelacije Alije Izetbegovi\u0107a 2000. godine Ustavni sud donio odluku u kojoj je jasno presudio da je konstitutivnost naroda temeljno na\u010delo Ustava Bih i tom na\u010delu se moraju povinovati svi ustavi i svi zakoni BiH. \u010cudno je, paradoksalno da danas predstavnici politi\u010dkih stranaka iz Sarajeva tra\u017ee pretvaranje Doma naroda u Federaciji u ne\u0161to kao Vije\u0107e naroda u RS-u, umjesto da tra\u017ee obratno. Dakle paradoksalno je ako nemamo u vidu da postoje zakulisne politi\u010dke tendencije da se FBiH pretvori u bo\u0161nja\u010dki dominantnu repliku RS-a \u0161to je kratkovidno i to je poigravanje sa budu\u0107no\u0161\u0107u BiH.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Isti\u010de da su te teze na stolu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;97% vlasti u BiH se konstituira po tzv. gra\u0111anskom principu, a samo 3% vlasti u BiH se konstituira po tzv. etni\u010dkom principu. Prema tome kad neko ka\u017ee treba do\u0107i do komproimisa, na\u0107i balans izme\u0111u etni\u010dkog i gra\u0111anskog, Ustav je taj balans na\u0161ao. Mi samo trebamo slijediti temeljna na\u010dela Ustava BiH i do\u0107i \u0107emo do rje\u0161enja.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ljubi\u0107 tvrdi da tvrde da su Hrvati prezastupljeni padaju u vodu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;BiH je dr\u017eava tri konstitutivna naroda, a konstitutivnost naroda je izvor legitimiteta. Procenat zastupljenosti nekog naroda kad su u pitanju institucije koje podrazumijevaju zajedni\u010dko upravljanje, tu apsolutno treba vrijediti na\u010delo pariteta. Kada su u pitanju gradska vije\u0107a, op\u0107inska vije\u0107a, kantonalne skup\u0161tine, vidimo kakva je situacija. Ja znam da u BiH niko ili malo ko zapravo vjeruje da je ovo rje\u0161enje koje danas imamo trajno rje\u0161enje BiH. Sad je pitanje da do\u0111emo do rje\u0161enja u prvom red u FBiH. Da Hrvati do\u0111u do legitimnog politi\u010dkog predstavljanja u Predsjedni\u0161tvu i Domu naroda. Ja sam uvjeren, ukoliko bi se to rije\u0161ilo, da bi se mnogo lak\u0161e moglo razgovarati o funkcionalnosti dr\u017eave i sa srpskom stranom iz RS-a. Me\u0111utim, ako mi \u010dujemo sa najvi\u0161e razine bo\u0161nja\u010dke politike da su spremni na sljede\u0107im izborima fenomen Kom\u0161i\u0107 spustiti na sve razine i ako se ta prijetnja na neki na\u010din ve\u0107 operacionalizira dominacijom u SIP-u, ukoliko se blokira bilo kakav razgovor o izmjeni Izbornog zakonodavstva, onda je te\u0161ko u toj situaciji tra\u017eiti povjerenje.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">BiH mo\u017ee biti funkcionalna, ali se apsolutno mo\u017ee i raspasti<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Isti\u010de da je jasno da su Hrvati diskriminirani kada je u pitanju izbor \u010dlana Predsjedni\u0161tva, pa skoro i izbor Doma naroda.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;Ne \u017eelim nikoga potcijeniti ali na zadnjem popisu stanovni\u0161tva u BiH 97% gra\u0111ana se izjasnilo kao pripadnici bo\u0161nja\u010dkog, hrvatskog i srpskog naroda, a samo 0,7% ih se nije uop\u0107e nacionalno izjasnilo. Dakle ukoliko mi akomodiramo i tra\u017eimo rje\u0161enje za BiH, mi ga moramo tra\u017eiti prema ve\u0107ini stanovni\u0161tva BiH dozvoljavaju\u0107i onim manjinama da budu kandidirani. I mi smo u na\u0161im prijedlozima dali rje\u0161enja odre\u0111ena koja omogu\u0107avaju i Hrvatima i ostalim konstitutivnim narodima da izaberu svoje legitimne politi\u010dke predstavnike, a da se predstavnici manjina kandidiraju. Bila bi katastrofa kad bismo mi ispunili odluku Europskog suda za ljudska prava na na\u010din da zadovoljimo pravo manjina da se kandidiraju, a da pogor\u0161amo balans izme\u0111u prava konstitutivnih naroda. Uvjeravam vas da bi tek tada u\u0161li u velike probleme u BiH.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ka\u017ee da te\u017enje Hrvata nisu tre\u0107i entitet i otcjepljenje, kao ni &#8220;hrvatski svijet&#8221;.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;Mi smo dovoljno povezani sa mati\u010dnom dr\u017eavom Hrvatskom. Apsolutno nijedna politi\u010dka stranka Hrvata relevantna, a ni bilo koji pojedinac ne zastupa bilo kakve iredentisti\u010dke te\u017enje. Prema tome to su stvari koje apsolutno ne stoje. BiH je od Dejtona uspostavljena kao institucionalna federacija koja akomodira, prilago\u0111ava prava naroda kroz Izborni zakon. Izborni zakon je klju\u010d stabilnosti BiH i oni koji poku\u0161avaju opstruiranjem Izbornog zakona sprije\u010diti da narodi u BiH budu legitimno predstavljeni se igraju sa budu\u0107nosti BiH. To zna\u010di da BiH mo\u017ee biti funkcionalna, ali se apsolutno mo\u017ee i raspasti. Mislim da to ne bi trebao biti interes nijednog naroda u BiH. Jedini interes Hrvata u BiH je da kroz izmjene Izbornog zakona do\u0111emo do rje\u0161enja koje \u0107e i Hrvatima omogu\u0107iti da budu legitimno politi\u010dki predstavljeni u samo tri institucije u BiH.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;Konstitutivni narodi zapravo \u010duvaju BiH jer narodi u BiH, ovakva kakva jeste, ne bi se trebali mo\u0107i otcijepiti. Ali entiteti bi mogli. I zato me \u010dudi kratkovidnost odre\u0111enih bo\u0161nja\u010dkih politi\u010dara koji poku\u0161avaju dekonstituiranjem Hrvata u FBiH pretvoriti FBiH u bo\u0161nja\u010dki dominantnu repliku RS-a, a to vodi u konfederaciju dva entiteta, vodi zakonomjerno u podjelu i sukobe&#8221;, zaklju\u010dio je Ljubi\u0107.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Izvor:federalna.ba<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Gost Dnevnika D bio je Bo\u017eo Ljubi\u0107, predsjednik Glavnog vije\u0107a HNS BiH. 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