{"id":74713,"date":"2021-10-12T10:39:17","date_gmt":"2021-10-12T09:39:17","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/radioljubuski.ba\/?p=74713"},"modified":"2021-10-12T10:39:19","modified_gmt":"2021-10-12T09:39:19","slug":"david-goldman-odgovorio-yad-vashemu-cini-se-da-ce-se-polemika-oko-jasenovca-nastaviti","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/radioljubuski.ba\/index.php\/2021\/10\/12\/david-goldman-odgovorio-yad-vashemu-cini-se-da-ce-se-polemika-oko-jasenovca-nastaviti\/","title":{"rendered":"David Goldman odgovorio Yad Vashemu: \u010cini se da \u0107e se polemika oko Jasenovca nastaviti"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Australski novinar David Goldman objavio je odgovor na reakcije na njegov raniji <a href=\"https:\/\/narod.hr\/kolumne-i-komentari\/prof-marusic-o-clanku-u-jerusalem-postu-istina-sve-sto-je-goldman-rekao\">\u010dlanak<\/a> u Jeruzalemskom Postu u kojem dovodi u pitanje broj\u010danost srpskih \u017ertava Jasenovca i njihovo povezivanje sa \u017eidovksim holokastom. Konkretno, Goldman se osvrnuo na priop\u0107enje koje je objavio Yad Vashem, slu\u017ebeni izraelski memorijalni centar posve\u0107en \u017ertvama Holokausta.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>U nastavku donosimo skra\u0107eni prijevod njegovog <a href=\"https:\/\/thegoldmanreport.org\/blog\/the-goldman-reports-direct-response-to-yad-vashems-press-release-dated-25821\">odgovora<\/a>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cNa Balkanu manipulacija holokaustom pokrenula je \u2018transrasizam\u2019<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>\u201cZnamo da la\u017eu, znaju da la\u017eu, znaju da znamo da la\u017eu, znamo da znaju da znamo da la\u017eu, ali jo\u0161 uvijek la\u017eu.\u201d \u2013 A. I. Solzhenitsyn<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Moglo bi se re\u0107i da je moj (sada izbrisani) \u010dlanak u Jerusalem Postu: Ovo sramotno ismijavanje holokausta treba sada prestati, bio je veliki \u2018hit\u2019 diljem biv\u0161e Jugoslavije<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Do danas je generirala tisu\u0107e komentara, preko 50 online i \/ ili tiskanih pri\u010da, masu TV ili YouTube komentara, 3 naknadna odgovora na Jerusalem Post i (navodno) barem jednu diplomatsku pritu\u017ebu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I da ne spominjem desetke i brojanje prijetnji smr\u0107u koje sam primio, po malom \u010dlanku o mjestu za koje je malo tko do sada \u010duo.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Kao \u0161to Yad Vashem ka\u017ee na svojoj internetskoj stranici: \u201cMnogo tisu\u0107a ljudi ubijeno je u koncentracijskom logoru Jasenovac i logoru za istrebljenje. Ve\u0107ina su bili Srbi, ali i drugi su ubijeni u logoru, uklju\u010duju\u0107i \u017didove, Rome i Hrvate koji se smatraju protivnicima usta\u0161kog re\u017eima\u2026\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>To je to\u010dno, kao \u0161to je bila moja prvotna pretpostavka da bi se neko nasumi\u010dno mjesto s brojem mrtvih od 4, 10 ili \u010dak i da je bilo 40.000 uglavnom ne-\u017didova trebalo i nikada ne bi moglo usporediti s Auschwitzom za potrebe politi\u010dkog bodovanja. Nikada. Ikad. To\u010dka.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Problemi s Jasenovcu proizlaze iz osamdesetih godina kada ga je biv\u0161a Jugoslavija preimenovala u Auschwitz Balkana i \u2018cijepila\u2019 u povijest holokausta unato\u010d \u010dinjenici kako je istaknuo Yad Vashem, ve\u0107ina \u017ertava nisu bili \u017didovi. Tome su pridodani i poslijeratni fizi\u010dki dokazi iz vlastite Komisije za ratne zlo\u010dine te zemlje koji nisu bili ni blizu astronomskim brojkama koje se danas koriste, a koje se mogu kretati od 1700 pa sve do 1,7 milijuna, ovisno o tome s kim razgovarate.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>To je dovelo do feti\u0161izacije (desnice) i zata\u0161kavanja (ljevice) koje bi tako\u0111er moglo imati ozbiljne i dugotrajne posljedice na cjelokupnu povijest holokausta. Tako\u0111er je otkrila neobi\u010dnu pojavu Srba koji se identificiraju kao \u017didovi, ali vi\u0161e o tome kasnije.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Kao \u0161to sam napomenuo u svom izvornom \u010dlanku, oni koji stoje iza ove promocije Jasenovca mogu pru\u017eiti vrlo malo fizi\u010dki \u2018provjerljivih podataka\u2019, \u010dak i priznati da su bilo kakva forenzi\u010dka iskapanja bila u najboljem slu\u010daju, povr\u0161na i da njihov broj \u017ertava nije ni\u0161ta drugo nego \u2018ekstrapolacije\u2019, ponekad i do 70 puta ve\u0107e od forenzi\u010dkih podataka. Drugim rije\u010dima, njihova je tvrdnja da se ve\u0107ina podataka koji \u2018dokazuju\u2019 broj poginulih u Jasenovcu nalazi u dokumentaciji (tj. bazi podataka). Ali \u010dak ni ovi dokumentacijski podaci nisu u redu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ranije ove godine, najve\u0107a svjetska tehni\u010dka profesionalna organizacija, Institut in\u017eenjera elektrotehnike i elektronike (IEEE) objavio je znanstveni rad u kojem se demografsko \u0161irenje niza ratnih koncentracijskih logora uspore\u0111uje s onim stanovni\u0161tva njihove zemlje doma\u0107ina. Utvr\u0111eno je kako se svi rezultati kampova podudaraju s demografijom zemlje doma\u0107ina. Svi osim jednog koji je \u2013 Jasenovac.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Istra\u017eivanje je pokazalo da je kori\u0161tenjem takozvane metode \u2018Total Variation Outlier Recognizer\u2019 ve\u0107ina \u2013 ili oko 89 posto Jasenova\u010dkih brojki bila potpuno nepouzdana. Dakle, isti ljudi koji priznaju da nema puno fizi\u010dkih dokaza i da je sve u dokumentacijskim podacima, sada su izgubili \u010dak i kori\u0161tenje tog mita.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>To je naglasio i ameri\u010dki Muzej holokausta koji je rekao da je cjelovitost ve\u0107ine dokumentacije koja se odnosi na Jasenovac \u2018vrlo problemati\u010dna\u2019 \u2013 ili drugim rije\u010dima, ne mo\u017ee se koristiti u svrhu provjere.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Iako nikada nisam rekao da znam \u0161to je pravi Jasenovac broj mrtvih i samo ono \u0161to je Jugoslavija mogla fizi\u010dki dokazati, bilo kakve usporedbe s Auschwitzom \u010dije brojke nisu ekstrapolirane 70 puta, ali su bile stvarne, moraju se smatrati ni\u0161tavnim i pokazati da Jasenovac nema premca nigdje na planeti.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u2013 barem ne da sam svjestan. Usporedite to s postupcima \u017eidovskih povjesni\u010dara koji su 1989. smanjili broj mrtvih u Auschwitz-Birkenauu s 4 milijuna na manje od 2 milijuna kako bi osigurali povijesnu to\u010dnost.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dakle, na kraju, govorimo o mjestu za koje se SVI sla\u017eu da ima vrlo malo fizi\u010dkih dokaza za pokazati, pokazalo se da je ve\u0107ina njegove dokumentacije neprovjerljiva i mo\u017ee citirati samo brojeve \u017ertava izvedene iz kvaziznanstvenih \u2018ekstrapolacija\u2019 koje pru\u017ea \u0161arolika posada biv\u0161ih komunisti\u010dkih apparatchiksa, oportunista i prevaranta. Ta je \u010dinjenica vi\u0161e nego dokazana nekim odgovorima na moj op-ed od tih istih \u2018stru\u010dnjaka\u2019, odgovorima koji su sasvim iskreno pre\u0161li na smje\u0161nost i pokazali koliko su zapravo krhke njihove la\u017ei.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A ako sumnjate u njihove gluposti, onda \u0107e se ti isti \u2018stru\u010dnjaci\u2019 obratiti svojim prijateljima u medijima i pokrenuti napade i optu\u017ebe za \u2018revizionizam\u2019 \u017eidovskog holokausta. Ukratko, njihova ne\u010duvena tvrdnja je, ako dovodite u pitanje istinitost mjesta gdje su uglavnom Srbi bili \u017ertve, onda morate biti \u2018poricatelj holokausta\u2019!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>To je zato \u0161to kada je rije\u010d o povijesti holokausta na Balkanu, Srbi se ve\u0107 neko vrijeme identificiraju kao \u017didovi u politiziranoj i rasisti\u010dkoj verziji transrodnosti, ili ako \u017eelite, \u2018transrasijalizmu\u2019.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Kao \u0161to je srpski pisac Vuk Dra\u0161kovi\u0107 izjavio 1985. godine: \u201cSrbi su trinaesto, izgubljeno i najnesu\u0111enije pleme Izraela\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Sada, ako to uop\u0107e nema smisla, to je upravo bila jedna od glavnih to\u010daka mog izvornog \u010dlanka.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Kako je to rekla profesorica Sveu\u010dili\u0161ta u Haifi Lea David: \u201cOd 2005. godine diskurs o holokaustu u Srbiji vodio je Odbor za Jasenovac, kako bi obrazovanje o holokaustu bilo u granicama srpskog sje\u0107anja. (\u2026) Odbor za Jasenovac odmah je sklopio veze s Yad Vashemom, koji nije shva\u0107ao kakva \u0107e biti komemoracija holokausta za slu\u017eenje u Srbiji. Srpska politi\u010dka elita potom je otela slike i simbole holokausta kako bi izjedna\u010dila srpske \u017ertve sa \u017eidovskim \u017ertvama i promicala srpsku pravednu \u017ertvu kao trajnu tijekom ratova devedesetih godina. Na taj na\u010din holokaust slu\u017ei kao sje\u0107anje na ekran, koje se koristi za potiskivanje jo\u0161 jednog aspekta povijesti koji srpska politi\u010dka elita ne \u017eeli vidjeti\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Toliko nalik primjeru povijesti Jasenovca, ta srpska \u017eelja za \u2018transrasijaliziranjem\u2019 identificiranjem kao \u017didovi u politi\u010dke svrhe tako\u0111er nema premca nigdje drugdje na ovom planetu \u010dega sam svjestan. Da sam prisiljen podsjetiti sve \u2013 uklju\u010duju\u0107i urednika Jerusalem Posta \u2013 da je odvratno doslovno \u2018reciklirati\u2019 neke od brojnih milijuna \u017eidovskih (i drugih) \u017ertava holokausta za uporabu u balkanskim me\u0111uetni\u010dkim sva\u0111ama \u0161okira me i jako rastu\u017euje.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Visceralna pretjerana reakcija na moj \u010dlanak mo\u017ee se protuma\u010diti samo kao potvrda moje po\u010detne pretpostavke i \u010dini se namjerno kalibrirana kako bi se prikrile la\u017ei onih koji su se \u201ctransrasijalizirali\u201d \u2013 ne samo da otimaju sje\u0107anje na holokaust, ali i \u0161iri \u017eidovski rasni identitet, a sve zbog vlastitih politi\u010dkih ciljeva.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dakle, iako su zlostavljanje i prijetnje smr\u0107u usmjerene na mene proteklih tjedana splasnule, zahvaljuju\u0107i moralnom kukavi\u010dluku Jerusalem Posta i mnogih drugih, \u010dini se da \u0107e se polemika oko Jasenovca nastaviti\u201d, stoji u odgovoru Davida Goldmana.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Izvor: narod.hr<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Australski novinar David Goldman objavio je odgovor na reakcije na njegov raniji \u010dlanak u Jeruzalemskom Postu u kojem dovodi u pitanje broj\u010danost srpskih \u017ertava Jasenovca i njihovo povezivanje sa \u017eidovksim holokastom. 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