{"id":79441,"date":"2021-10-22T14:01:47","date_gmt":"2021-10-22T13:01:47","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/radioljubuski.ba\/?p=79441"},"modified":"2021-10-22T14:01:49","modified_gmt":"2021-10-22T13:01:49","slug":"dr-goluza-najmanje-je-bitno-sto-beros-misli-o-laucu-a-covid-potvrde-su-tu-da-povecaju-broj-cijepljenih","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/radioljubuski.ba\/index.php\/2021\/10\/22\/dr-goluza-najmanje-je-bitno-sto-beros-misli-o-laucu-a-covid-potvrde-su-tu-da-povecaju-broj-cijepljenih\/","title":{"rendered":"Dr. Golu\u017ea: Najmanje je bitno \u0161to Bero\u0161 misli o Laucu, a covid potvrde su tu da pove\u0107aju broj cijepljenih"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Trpimir Golu\u017ea, biv\u0161i predsjednik Hrvatske lije\u010dni\u010dke komore i gradski zastupnik Mosta u Zagrebu, gostovao je na <a href=\"https:\/\/hr.n1info.com\/vijesti\/goluza-stozer-je-itekako-odgovoran-za-nisku-procijepljenost\/\">N1<\/a> te govorio o epidemiolo\u0161koj situaciji, Gordanu Laucu i Znanstvenom savjetu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Na po\u010detku se osvrnuo na Lauca i ostale \u010dlanove Znanstvenog savjeta, ka\u017ee kako ga ne iznena\u0111uje \u0161to se doga\u0111a jer se radi o diskusiji me\u0111u znanstvenicima.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cNe govorim konkretno o tome \u0161to je netko nekoga optu\u017eio. Ne pratim toliko detaljno dru\u0161tvene mre\u017ee i gospodina Lauca pa ne mogu odgovarati za sve \u0161to je napisao, aali mogu konceptualno zaklju\u010diti o \u010demu se radi. To je koloplet puno znanstvenika na jednom mjestu. Znanost sama po sebi i znanstvenici imaju habitus sumnje, propitivanja i argumentirane rasprave, normalno je da se zala\u017eu za svoje stavove i to nije sporno. Sporno je to \u0161to se te rasprave plasiraju u op\u0107u javnost koja nije spremna da ih na primjereni na\u010din prihvati pa takvo plasiranje mo\u017ee biti poprili\u010dno pogubno i opasno\u201d, smatra.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>\u201cGrba Bujevi\u0107 sada ne skida masku u Saboru\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Na pitanje ne podcjenjuje li javnost, veli:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cNe podcjenjujem javnost nego je malo ljudi koji mogu na znanstvenoj razini razumjeti, ne samo pojedine stvari, nego principe djelovanja i oni koji nisu u znanosti te\u0161ko \u0107e shvatiti za\u0161to nema zajedni\u010dkog stava. Ako pogledate kako smo se pona\u0161ali oko korone od prvog slu\u010daja pa do danas, to su drasti\u010dne razlike. Nije problem \u0161to se mijenja pona\u0161anje, jer sve vi\u0161e znamo, nego je problem onih koji nam odre\u0111uju kako \u0107emo se pona\u0161ati, nastupaju s pozicije da oni o svemu sve znaju, a ne znaju. I onda kada plasiraju prili\u010dno definirane stavove pa se kasnije poka\u017ee da se moraju odmaknuti od tih stavova ili zauzeti one opre\u010dne, onda to u op\u0107oj javnosti izaziva zbunjenost, koja postaje nepovjerenje, a to dovodi to toga da ljudi ne slu\u0161aju \u0161to stru\u010dnjaci govore i ne primjenjuju to\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Na tome tragu mijenjanja stavova se osvrnuo i na Grbu Bujevi\u0107, koja je prvo tvrdila da od maski nema koristi: \u201cNavodno sada Grba Bujevi\u0107 u Saboru uop\u0107e ne skida masku, a tvrdila je da maska ni\u010dem ne slu\u017ei. To su promjene\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Rekao je i kako ga zanima pozadina svih previranja u Znanstvenom savjetu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cSada kada gledate, \u010dije preporuke premijer Plenkovi\u0107 slu\u0161a i plasira ih kroz zakonska rje\u0161enje u praksu. Tko je zagovarao o\u0161tre mjere, a tko da ih nema. Hrvatska je imala puno bla\u017ee mjere od zemalja u okru\u017eenju i EU. Ne znam to\u010dno kakvi su podaci, ali u svakom slu\u010daju mislim da premijer nije pogrije\u0161io \u0161to neposredno pred turisti\u010dku sezonu nije i\u0161ao s najstro\u017eim mjerama koje su pojedinci, koji se ne sla\u017eu s Laucem, zagovarali\u201d, ka\u017ee.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>\u201cNajmanje je bitno \u0161to Bero\u0161 misli o Laucu\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Za Lauca je dodao i kako je prili\u010dno osebujan:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cNo ne mogu se slo\u017eiti s ljudima koji kod njega zazivaju nekakav delikt mi\u0161ljenja. \u010covjek mo\u017ee zagovarati potpuno druge stvari, ali zna se tko donosi odluke, a to je Plenkovi\u0107. Najmanje je bitno \u0161to Bero\u0161 misli o Laucu i ho\u0107e li ga isklju\u010diti iz Znanstvenog savjeta. Smatram da je premijer u ulozi skrbnika iz postupaka koje radi i oni su u svakom slu\u010daju bli\u017ei onome \u0161to tandem Lauc-Baki\u0107 predla\u017ee nego onome \u0161to predla\u017ee znanstvena zajednica\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Govorio je i o optere\u0107enosti zdravstvenog sustava:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cMi sada imamo 3,4 trudnice u razli\u010ditim stupnjevima trudno\u0107e na respiratorima. Toga nije bilo prije 3,4,5, mjeseci, definitivno je to val koji traje neko vrijeme i sada je u uzlaznoj putanji i prili\u010dno je optere\u0107en zdravstveni sustav i pred nama su slo\u017eena vremena\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cMinistri uop\u0107e nisu nu\u017eni biti u sto\u017eeru\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Poti\u010de i na cijepljenje:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cOno \u0161to bih sugerirao svima je da se svakako cijepe. Ja sam osobno prebolio covid, bez obzira na to sam dva puta cijepljen i cijepit \u0107u se i tre\u0107i puta. Preporu\u010dio bih to svima. Cijepljenjem mi prvenstveno mislimo o sebi jer vjerojatnost da se zarazimo covidom je zna\u010dajno manja nego da nismo cijepljeni, ali ono najva\u017enije, ako se i zarazimo te\u017eina klini\u010dke slike je zna\u010dajno slabija i daje nam puno ve\u0107e \u0161anse za oporavak. \u010cini mi se da je poruka: \u2018cijepi se za druge\u2019 ljude uspavala\u201d, ocijenio je Golu\u017ea.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Rekao je i kako premijer, uvijek kada je epidemiolo\u0161ka situacija bolja, govori kako je za to zaslu\u017ean Sto\u017eer, a kada se pogor\u0161a da su krivi ljudi koji ne slu\u0161aju sto\u017eer.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cSto\u017eer je itekako odgovoran zbog niske stope procijepljenosti jer su izgubili vjerodostojnost. Mislim da bi bio dobro da se osvje\u017ei sto\u017eer. Nevjerojatno mi je da su na \u010delu ljudi koji imaju jako puno posla i kada nisu u sto\u017eeru. Ministri uop\u0107e nisu nu\u017eni biti u sto\u017eeru.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Represija kao takva mislim da bi bila kontraproduktivna. Uvo\u0111enje covid potvrda je, valjda svakom jasno, uvedeno da se pove\u0107a procijepljenost i mislim da \u0107e i\u0107i \u0161ire s njima izvan zdravstvenog sustava jer moraju i\u0107i u smjeru toga da se \u0161to vi\u0161e ljudi procijepi\u201d, predvi\u0111a Golu\u017ea.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Izvor: narod.hr\/N1<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Trpimir Golu\u017ea, biv\u0161i predsjednik Hrvatske lije\u010dni\u010dke komore i gradski zastupnik Mosta u Zagrebu, gostovao je na N1 te govorio o epidemiolo\u0161koj situaciji, Gordanu Laucu i Znanstvenom savjetu. 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